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		<title>By: Teen Autism &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Metaphor</title>
		<link>http://teenautism.com/2009/01/13/nuance/comment-page-1/#comment-16156</link>
		<dc:creator>Teen Autism &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Metaphor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The occupant has autism and, although he eventually learned to talk, he is characteristically literal-minded and often has difficulty understanding various figures of speech. Those close to him have learned to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tanya Savko</title>
		<link>http://teenautism.com/2009/01/13/nuance/comment-page-1/#comment-2588</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanya Savko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate - thanks so much for your input re people acknowledging what you/Nigel/anyone says. I try to at least say an &quot;oh, really?&quot; or &quot;okay&quot; or &quot;mm-hmm&quot; to Nigel to let him know that I heard what he said if it doesn&#039;t require an answer. Often times, my mind is so full with trying to juggle my jobs, a second child, household duties, errands, appointments, etc. that I&#039;m always thinking ahead reminding myself of what I have to do and when. It&#039;s hard to always be fully in the moment. Sometimes I&#039;m so focused on what I&#039;m thinking about that one of my sons will come in the room and say something and I literally do not hear them. But that&#039;s just me - I can&#039;t speak for other NTs who probably have their own reasons for why they do things. I&#039;m definitely with you on ASD people having more associational thinking, though. Nigel has demonstrated this since early childhood, when his speech was largely echolalic. His therapists used to call him &quot;Mr. Association&quot; for that reason. Thanks again for the discussion, Kate! I always like what you have to say.

Mama Mara - I should see if Nigel would get into Star Trek. I wonder if he&#039;d identify with Data!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate &#8211; thanks so much for your input re people acknowledging what you/Nigel/anyone says. I try to at least say an &#8220;oh, really?&#8221; or &#8220;okay&#8221; or &#8220;mm-hmm&#8221; to Nigel to let him know that I heard what he said if it doesn&#8217;t require an answer. Often times, my mind is so full with trying to juggle my jobs, a second child, household duties, errands, appointments, etc. that I&#8217;m always thinking ahead reminding myself of what I have to do and when. It&#8217;s hard to always be fully in the moment. Sometimes I&#8217;m so focused on what I&#8217;m thinking about that one of my sons will come in the room and say something and I literally do not hear them. But that&#8217;s just me &#8211; I can&#8217;t speak for other NTs who probably have their own reasons for why they do things. I&#8217;m definitely with you on ASD people having more associational thinking, though. Nigel has demonstrated this since early childhood, when his speech was largely echolalic. His therapists used to call him &#8220;Mr. Association&#8221; for that reason. Thanks again for the discussion, Kate! I always like what you have to say.</p>
<p>Mama Mara &#8211; I should see if Nigel would get into Star Trek. I wonder if he&#8217;d identify with Data!</p>
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		<title>By: mama mara</title>
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		<dc:creator>mama mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to autism and humor, I always remember my favorite character, Data, from Star Trek: Next Generation, in his quest to understand the concept of &quot;funny&quot;
 (Episode - &quot;Suddenly Human&quot;)

DATA: I fail to understand why this is amusing.
CMDR. RIKER: Access your databanks under humor, subheading slapstick.
DATA: Comedy stressing farce and horseplay. Aw. This no doubt is a variation on pie in the face.
RIKER: Now do you see what&#039;s funny ?
DATA: No, sir, but I will take your word for it. This is very amusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to autism and humor, I always remember my favorite character, Data, from Star Trek: Next Generation, in his quest to understand the concept of &#8220;funny&#8221;<br />
 (Episode &#8211; &#8220;Suddenly Human&#8221;)</p>
<p>DATA: I fail to understand why this is amusing.<br />
CMDR. RIKER: Access your databanks under humor, subheading slapstick.<br />
DATA: Comedy stressing farce and horseplay. Aw. This no doubt is a variation on pie in the face.<br />
RIKER: Now do you see what&#8217;s funny ?<br />
DATA: No, sir, but I will take your word for it. This is very amusing.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://teenautism.com/2009/01/13/nuance/comment-page-1/#comment-2549</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the way he just calmly made note of the sarcasm, it&#039;s funny. &quot;Hmm...I detect humor&quot;. Indicative of his analytical mind. Very Nigel of him. 

“My brain is the size of twenty yellow lemons,”

and phrases like this are great because they&#039;re so unique. Nigelisms are basically like snowflakes...unique, unlike any other, his own trademark expressions. &quot;Nigel-esque&quot; will be my new word for a novel turn of phrase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the way he just calmly made note of the sarcasm, it&#8217;s funny. &#8220;Hmm&#8230;I detect humor&#8221;. Indicative of his analytical mind. Very Nigel of him. </p>
<p>“My brain is the size of twenty yellow lemons,”</p>
<p>and phrases like this are great because they&#8217;re so unique. Nigelisms are basically like snowflakes&#8230;unique, unlike any other, his own trademark expressions. &#8220;Nigel-esque&#8221; will be my new word for a novel turn of phrase.</p>
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		<title>By: jess</title>
		<link>http://teenautism.com/2009/01/13/nuance/comment-page-1/#comment-2547</link>
		<dc:creator>jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s such a marvel to see them start to put it all together .. to decode what was once indecipherable. your pride is well deserved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s such a marvel to see them start to put it all together .. to decode what was once indecipherable. your pride is well deserved!</p>
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		<title>By: Em</title>
		<link>http://teenautism.com/2009/01/13/nuance/comment-page-1/#comment-2545</link>
		<dc:creator>Em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love when our son points out such things...cause I do look right past them. But for his mind, each detail is something to be observed and appreciated. Or at least observed. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love when our son points out such things&#8230;cause I do look right past them. But for his mind, each detail is something to be observed and appreciated. Or at least observed. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Fearless Females</title>
		<link>http://teenautism.com/2009/01/13/nuance/comment-page-1/#comment-2542</link>
		<dc:creator>Fearless Females</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nigel is definitely going places!!  It&#039;s so nice to see how our kids are progressing each year and learning to understand concepts and why people do what they do... Nick is so similar that way; finds people interesting and will always ask me why a person did what they did or said what they said even though he knows that answer---he is quite amused!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nigel is definitely going places!!  It&#8217;s so nice to see how our kids are progressing each year and learning to understand concepts and why people do what they do&#8230; Nick is so similar that way; finds people interesting and will always ask me why a person did what they did or said what they said even though he knows that answer&#8212;he is quite amused!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://teenautism.com/2009/01/13/nuance/comment-page-1/#comment-2527</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But seriously. I have a response, a thought, a comment for every single thing a person says to me, no mater how small, unimportant, off the wall, whatever. It just seems like good conversation to respond. 

So I can&#039;t understand why other people don&#039;t. What are you, the NT, THINKING when we talk? Aren&#039;t you always thinking about something? Why is it so hard for NTs to then translate those thoughts into words? 

If I make for example a comment about something I did that day - a normal thing to say nothing off the wall - in a phone conversation, it is quite likely the person will say nothing. NOTHING. I just said something and they say nothing. Why? What is the reasoning and rationale behind this? Do they truly have no thoughts about what I just said? No emotional reaction, it doesn&#039;t spur any thoughts in them?

I&#039;m just trying to understand how the other side thinks. 

Maybe people with ASD have more associational thinking?

I could go on but I&#039;ll stop there...
Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But seriously. I have a response, a thought, a comment for every single thing a person says to me, no mater how small, unimportant, off the wall, whatever. It just seems like good conversation to respond. </p>
<p>So I can&#8217;t understand why other people don&#8217;t. What are you, the NT, THINKING when we talk? Aren&#8217;t you always thinking about something? Why is it so hard for NTs to then translate those thoughts into words? </p>
<p>If I make for example a comment about something I did that day &#8211; a normal thing to say nothing off the wall &#8211; in a phone conversation, it is quite likely the person will say nothing. NOTHING. I just said something and they say nothing. Why? What is the reasoning and rationale behind this? Do they truly have no thoughts about what I just said? No emotional reaction, it doesn&#8217;t spur any thoughts in them?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just trying to understand how the other side thinks. </p>
<p>Maybe people with ASD have more associational thinking?</p>
<p>I could go on but I&#8217;ll stop there&#8230;<br />
Kate</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://teenautism.com/2009/01/13/nuance/comment-page-1/#comment-2525</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My son’s autistic mind usually takes nothing for granted and makes no assumptions. If he makes a statement such as “This mixes my face” while looking into a disco ball, he will repeat the statement until someone acknowledges him. He does not take for granted that I’ve heard him, that I don’t know that he is expecting a response, or that I don’t have one for him. He doesn’t understand why no one is responding to him, so he repeats himself. He doesn’t mind repeating himself five times while I am formulating a response, especially when his statement is something as, um, unusual as “My brain is the size of twenty yellow lemons,” which he said at age eight. I had no idea where that came from.&quot;

Wow, that describes me to a tee. It really, really bothers me when no one replies to something I&#039;ve said. Sometimes it will even make me quite angry. I wonder where I buy the &quot;Learn how to understand conversational nuances 101&quot; toolkit? :) 

I also never assume someone has heard me or understands me. This is actually probably my biggest and most frustrating communication deficit with autism. Why can&#039;t people acknowledge what I say? Especially when they are family and I have asked them a million times to? Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My son’s autistic mind usually takes nothing for granted and makes no assumptions. If he makes a statement such as “This mixes my face” while looking into a disco ball, he will repeat the statement until someone acknowledges him. He does not take for granted that I’ve heard him, that I don’t know that he is expecting a response, or that I don’t have one for him. He doesn’t understand why no one is responding to him, so he repeats himself. He doesn’t mind repeating himself five times while I am formulating a response, especially when his statement is something as, um, unusual as “My brain is the size of twenty yellow lemons,” which he said at age eight. I had no idea where that came from.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, that describes me to a tee. It really, really bothers me when no one replies to something I&#8217;ve said. Sometimes it will even make me quite angry. I wonder where I buy the &#8220;Learn how to understand conversational nuances 101&#8243; toolkit? <img src='http://teenautism.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I also never assume someone has heard me or understands me. This is actually probably my biggest and most frustrating communication deficit with autism. Why can&#8217;t people acknowledge what I say? Especially when they are family and I have asked them a million times to? Interesting.</p>
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